--- In Tidewater_Rails@..., "Henry Dralle"
<hdralleiii@y...> wrote:
> no prob
>
> Hank
> Thanks Hank!
> I have no idea why I typed in that other address?!!
>
My apologies HENRY. My batting record really stinks!
I was in pain with a bad wisdom tooth (now removed-hooray!), and have
no idea where the Hank came from. I guess that is another reason not
to type when highly medicated...
Sorry again!
Russell Underwood
I know that there is still one eng the #2 and three cab's from the NF&D (Norfolk, Franklin & Danville) around. Does anybody know of any other surviving equipment from this road.
Also I'm looking for NF&D ETT's(there was 4 diff ones). If anybody has some they would like to sell or know where I can find some contact me off-list.
Does anyone know the disposition of Eveready SW900 1196, from the Newport News, VA facility that was closed down and demolished in the mid-1990s? Unit is former SP 1196, 4276-3, 6/54.
Does anyone know the disposition of Eveready SW900 1196, from the Newport News, VA facility that was closed down and demolished in the mid-1990s? Unit is former SP 1196, 4276-3, 6/54.
--- In LocoNotes@yahoogroups.com, "alcors36" <NFDRwy@C...> wrote:
Answers and photo help from another list indicate what I shot there
in May 1988 was indeed the Warrenton unit. As stated the trucks are
buried in stone in one of my shots (the bumping post), and shadowed
in the other shot I purchased.
I have never seen the other unit with the canopy until today,and it
was not present on several later visits. The Warrenton was gone on my
next visit in DEC 1992, as was the LRS SW-1 118 which had been
working there. The plant had also become Vulcan Materials during that
time, and ALCO/EMD S2m 12830 had taken over switching duties. I know
that the S2m was there through at least 1997. Have'nt been back there
since.
Thanks for the help!
Russell Underwood
--- End forwarded message ---
I have been looking at a couple of shots of the 45T-50T Whitcomb once used by Trego Stone at Skippers, VA, and have different builder numbers on each. One is listed as a 45T unit, with 60203, 11/42, from the Warrenton RR and Southeast Shipbuilding. The other shot is listed as a 50T unit, 61095, 5/51, from Maryland Slag as 10. Which is correct?
When I visited the location in 1987, the unit was shoved to the end of a track, with the trucks buried in stone, and no builders plate. It appeared to be in use as a bumping post.
Thanks. I believe you are referring to "Rails to Weeds: Searching
out the Ghost Railroads in Wilmington" by Charles R. Kernon, which I
bought last year at the RR museum in Wilmington, and which is right
here in my hand. It has inspired another book which is still in my
own mind: "Rails to Yesteryear: The Ghost Railroads of Columbus
County." All I need are the pics (and a digital camera).
The only info I have on the WL&R (Whiteville Lumber & RR) is from
the Steam Powered Video's Railroad Atlas of N. America (Appalachia &
Piedmont volume), which is published in the UK and which I purchased
at Steamtown in Scranton PA. I have driven along a road which now
traverses the old right of way south of Whiteville NC, and the
lumber co. still exists in Whiteville, so I will ask if anyone there
knows anything. There were lots of lumber RRs around here a century
ago, as in PA. One that is still shown on the Delorme Atlas for NC
south of White Lake is no longer there, and evidently is not shown
in the correct location, as I learned last spring on a 52-mile bike
ride across Elwell Ferry (CSX spells it "fairy" at their road
crossing gate) last spring.
Best Wishes,
Doc
I would like to join this group but could not find it in the Yahoo Groups
listings.
What do I need to do?
Allen Cain
410 Council Bluff Parkway
Murfreesboro, TN 37127
Enroute to Smithfield today, I passed over the old RofW of the Lone Star narrow gauge line that ran from the former sand pit at Chuckatuck, VA (Suffolk), down to the Nansemond River, where barges would be loaded. You can still see some of the RofW with the Terraserver topo maps, and satellite imagery. The roadbed looks like some sort of a bike trail, and is in great shape. The former sand pit is now a residential developement called Lone Star Lakes. I believe two locomotives were once used here, and according to The Short Line, they were 45T GEs, numbers 1 and 2.
Any info on the Dismal Swamp RR, or the Whiteville Railroad & Lumber Co.? Doc
Check the files section. I have been listing the railroads alphabetically, and listing references I find regarding operations. Nothing on the Whiteville Railroad & Lumber Co. (yet), but I seem to recall a book I saw at the museum in Wilmington, NC that may be of help.(Ghost Railroads of NC???)
I hate to be #13, but it looks like a great group! I'm one block
from the old Wilmington & Manchester (ACL) line through Lake
Waccamaw NC, torn up in 1977. Only a hump in the road left. North
of here, in Council, there is still the old SAL (now CSX) line which
is the longest straight "air line" in the USA at 78 miles.
In NE PA, where I have lately resided, old rail lines persist for
decades, thanks to anthracite residue; I can still ride my mountain
bike there on the old Wilkes-Barre & Eastern grade, torn up in
1939! Down here, the vegetation really obliterates everything in a
few short years. I have a photo railbook in mind on the "Ghost
Railroads of Columbus County," if I can get a digital camera, and my
wife turns me loose with the car for a day to get the photos (the
book is already written in my head!). There are no railtrails here,
and the roads have no shoulders--life and limb with the logging
trucks! (Logging RRs were better!)
Any info on the Dismal Swamp RR, or the Whiteville Railroad & Lumber
Co.?
Best Wishes,
Doc
After my trip to the CWRY today, I thought I would swing into Smithfield, VA to see what I could find about this VERY obscure little line. Little to no success.
A visit to the Isle of Wight History Museum in downtown proved nothing, although I did get the name of a fella that may have some info on the line, but he is out of town for the weekend. There are no pictures at all of the line in the museum, but they said that they would be interested in anything I could uncover. A local co-worker also checked the town newspaper, and found nothing.
Knowing that H. Ried had shot the line in operation, along with Mallory Hope Ferrell, and that H. Reid was once an editor at our local paper, I decided to see what they may have in their archives. I was told by the staff person that they have gone to computer records, and show nothing on Smithfield Terminal RR. She said that there may be some clippings in a file some where that mention it, but it would take nearly forever to read thorough them all. Sounded to me like she wanted to go home...<BG>
Anyhow, I guess the next step will be the State Library in Richmond. Anyone have any contacts there, hours, location, etc.???
I decided to do a little break from my job today, and relax. I was supposed to go to Richmond for the fire-up of the ODC-NRHS 0-6-0T at Hallsboro, but the sky seemed less than cooperative in the direction of Richmond, so instead, I went looking for the Commonwealth Rwy, hoping to get some action shots. I started at the end of the line in West Norfolk, at the BASF plant, where GP16 444 is usually found switching tank cars, and found nothing. I followed the line all the way into Suffolk, and still found nothing. I then back tracked, and decided to check out Wilroy Industrial Park, on an instinct.
I found the CWRY CF7 517 parked in the grove of Crepe Myrtles, on the mainline. Back in the park, I found GP16 444, literally covered in oil. Also present were Rail-Link SW1200s 202 and 203. These are the two units that were leased to Allied-Signal in Hopewell, VA, and later to Honeywell Corporation (same plant). Honeywell decided to lease two RLCX units instead, and return the two SW1200s to RLIX. Both units are still in Allied-Signal blue paint, with RLIX marks and numbers on the cab, where the Aliied-Signal numbers once were. I also decided to check the frame numbers while there, and found that the 202 is FR 7812-3 !, and the 203 is XX11-1 (partially obstructed by the RF&P reflector mounted on the frame).
The units are easily shootable from a public grade crossing, behind Golden States Foods, in the industrial park. Best lighting is about 1330-1400.
Hi,
I'd like to join, but couldn't find it in Yahoo Groupsearch:
"Sorry, no matches were found for Tidewater_rails.
Search Yahoo! Groups for other topics."
Doc
I'm sorry this is late, but as I was going to work yesterday at 1500, I spotted the square CSX Track Geometry car on the West end of the Lowe's Lumber yard wye track, across from the Amtrak station, in Newport News. There were some people on the ground inspecting a switch. Unfortunately, I did'nt have time to investigate further. It may still be on the Peninsula Sub checking all of the recent track work.
It is wearing the dark future paint, with a white roof. I could'nt get the number.
I'll forward your reply. I found it mentioned in an cumulative index of the NRHS BULLETIN, and saw that H. Reid co-authored the piece, and thought that it may have been in NC.
Since I am not subscribed to all the lists to which you posted this question, you will have to repost my reply to them.
The Swamp Rabbit RR was a tourist RR in SC, not NC. It used the last few (about 5) miles of the Greenville Northern RR. The RR was part of a pre-Six Flags local amusement park that opened up near Marietta, SC. I really didn't pay much attention to the park, as the RR was my interest. The RR operated a tourist train SE from the park towards Greenville to the next town that was the end of GN RR operations. I cannot remember it's name, nor how the train was turned, but I am pretty sure we ran pilot first both ways. Back at the park there was a reverse loop circling the park to turn the train.
A friend of mine named Tommy Lawson (he later wrote at least one book on logging locos in Alabama) had a summer job firing, and I got to ride the entire line down and back with him. The engine was the 2-6-2 from the Cliffside RR in North Carolina, which had just stopped running steam a couple of years before.
The Swamp Rabbit RR and the park only lasted a year or so, and went under. I like to think I had a part in the engine's future, as I mentioned the engine was sitting up there and available to some folks at the Stone Mountain Scenic RR in GA, and some time later the engine was bought and put into operation here. It ran under steam for a few years, then they put a diesel behind her covered with a boxcar- shape, and pushed her around. I believe that is still the mode of operation, I have not visited the RR in years.
Matt Bumgarner is working on a Cliffside book and may be able to provide more info. Kevin Woods worked on the Stone Mounrtain Scenic quite a few years and I am sure knows the engine and the operation very well.
It is our hope that you will enjoy discussing the many different railroads that operate, or have operated, in the Eastern VA-NC region over the years. Discussions will vary from some of the most obscure of roads, to todays CSX and NS Corporation. Industrials and shortlines are also featured, with their many different locomotive models, both steam and diesel. While we will pretty much cover the many lines in the popular book, TIDEWATER TRIANGLE, other nearby roads have also been included.
There is a list of reference materials in the files section, to which we will be adding more information, as it is found. Roadnames will be listed seperately, to assist you in searching for information on your particular operation. Some books that cover the larger railroads may be ommited from the list, as they do not contain any specific information about how the railroads operate in our coverage area, such as motive power picture books. The Richard Prince series of books is the exception, due to the fact that they also contain many of the smaller, obscure railroads, and their histories.
As time and space permit, we may add a few rosters for some of the shortlines and industrials. Additions and/or corrections are welcome! It is hoped to make this site as accurate as possible, and a good reference for research.
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