Well, that confirms what I've heard. Sad, we could use a few more articulated
steal locos in running condition.
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>
> Having been at the VMT this past weekend for the Lerro Productions photo
shoot, I can tell you the chances of 1218 running again are non-existant. The
locomotive is gutted internally as it was undergoing an overhaul at the time NS
> terminated the steam program in 1994.
>
>
> The 611 is a different story. Every knob, lever, and handle in the cab is
kept lubricated along with the running gear and other essential parts. When
asked how long it would take to bring the engine up to running condition I was
told "send her down the (East End) shops for about a week, and she'll be on the
> road".
>
>
>
> Jeff Hawkins
>
>
>
> P.S. I have a preference towards 1218 myself
>
>
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> From: phoenix401@...
> To: "Tidewater Rails"
> Sent: Wednesday, November 18, 2009 2:28:44 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern
Subject: Re: [Tidewater_Rails] Norfolk and Western 611 scheduled to hit theroad
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>
>
> Sounds like a poor attempt at humor to me.
> If Norfolk Southern were to restore and run any steam, I'd prefer they bring
> 1218 back
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Having been at the VMT this past weekend for the Lerro Productions photo shoot,
I can tell you the chances of 1218 running again are non-existant. The
locomotive is gutted internally as it was undergoing an overhaul at the time NS
terminated the steam program in 1994.Â
The 611 is a different story. Every knob, lever, and handle in the cab is kept
lubricated along with the running gear and other essential parts. When asked
how long it would take to bring the engine up to running condition I was told
"send her down the (East End) shops for about a week, and she'll be on the
road".Â
Jeff Hawkins
P.S. I have a preference towards 1218 myself
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From: phoenix401@...
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Sent: Wednesday, November 18, 2009 2:28:44 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern
Subject: Re: [Tidewater_Rails] Norfolk and Western 611 scheduled to hit theroad
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Sounds like a poor attempt at humor to me.
If Norfolk Southern were to restore and run any steam, I'd prefer they bring
1218 back
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Sounds like a poor attempt at humor to me.
If Norfolk Southern were to restore and run any steam, I'd prefer they bring
1218 back
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> -----Original Message-----
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> From: Jeff Hawkins
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> Date: Wed, 18 Nov 2009 17:05:46
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> To: Tidewater Rails
>
> Subject: Re: [Tidewater_Rails] Norfolk and Western 611 scheduled to hit the
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> road again
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> This is a sick joke, right?
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> Jeff Hawkins
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> ----- Original Message -----
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> From: "Ian Murray"
>
> To: undisclosed recipients: ;
>
> Sent: Wednesday, November 18, 2009 11:57:53 AM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern
> Subject: [Tidewater_Rails] Norfolk and Western 611 scheduled to hit the road
> again
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> Subject: FW: Norfolk and Western 611 scheduled to hit the road]
>
>
>
> >
>
> >Norfolk and Western 611 scheduled to hit the road
>
> >November 15, 2009
>
> >
>
> >In the recent decline in rail movement the Norfolk and Southern rail road
>
> >board of directors has made a surprise announcement. That the 4-8-4 steam
>
> >locomotive will be serviced and brought back for a executive tour of the
>
> >line stopping along the way at major cities to promote rail service. It
>
> >is not clear yet when this tour will occur or any of the details of where
>
> >the
>
> >locomotive will be shipped to be worked on. When contacted Donald W.
>
> >Seale the Chief Marketing Officer declined any comment on the matter only
>
> >adding to the mystery of when the tour will commence. Currently the steam
>
> >locomotive #611 is on display at the Virginia Museum of Transportation,
>
> >it is a wonder of when they will sneek this massive locomotive out to
>
> >service its old rusted parts.
>
> >As one of the last, most prominent, and most distinctive locomotives
>
> >assembled in Roanoke, the 611 often serves as a symbol for Roanoke and its
>
> >railroad history. The 611 is also depicted on the Commonwealth of
>
> >Virginia's "Railway Heritage" license plate.
>
> >
>
> >The executives of NS determined to terminate the steam program, due to
>
> >rising insurance costs, increasing cost of maintenance, and a high system
>
> >capacity. The last steam excursion was on December 3 from Birmingham,
>
> >Alabama to Chattanooga, Tennessee and back, pulled by 611. The next day
>
> >611 set off on a three-day trek home to Roanoke. 611's last official day
>
> >of being under steam was December 7, 1994, the 53rd anniversary of Pearl
>
> >Harbor Day.
>
> >Between Salisbury, North Carolina and Roanoke, 611 displayed black flags
>
> >on the run. That evening, upon arrival at Schaffers Crossing in Roanoke,
>
> >its fire was dumped for the last time.
>
> >
>
> >
>
> >--
>
> >Raymond E. Grabowski, Jr.
>
> >Erie, Pennsylvania
>
> >
>
> >"Though we are not now that strength which in old days moved earth and
>
> >heaven, that which we are, we are; one equal temper of heroic hearts made
>
> >weak by time and fate but strong in will to strive, to seek, to find and
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> >not to yield." Alfred, Lord Tennyson
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-----Original Message-----
From: Jeff Hawkins <jl.hawkins@...>
Date: Wed, 18 Nov 2009 17:05:46
To: Tidewater Rails<Tidewater_Rails@...>
Subject: Re: [Tidewater_Rails] Norfolk and Western 611 scheduled to hit the
road again
This is a sick joke, right?Â
Jeff Hawkins
----- Original Message -----
From: "Ian Murray" <csabresxr1@...>
To: undisclosed recipients: ;
Sent: Wednesday, November 18, 2009 11:57:53 AM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern
Subject: [Tidewater_Rails] Norfolk and Western 611 scheduled to hit the road
again
Â
Subject:Â FW: Norfolk and Western 611 scheduled to hit the road]
Â
>Â
>Norfolk and Western 611 scheduled to hit the road
>November 15, 2009
>
>In the recent decline in rail movement the Norfolk and Southern rail road
>board of directors has made a surprise announcement. That the 4-8-4 steam
>locomotive will be serviced and brought back for a executive tour of the
>line stopping along the way at major cities to promote rail service. It
>is not clear yet when this tour will occur or any of the details of where
>the
>locomotive will be shipped to be worked on. When contacted Donald W.
>Seale the Chief Marketing Officer declined any comment on the matter only
>adding to the mystery of when the tour will commence. Currently the steam
>locomotive #611 is on display at the Virginia Museum of Transportation,
>it is a wonder of when they will sneek this massive locomotive out to
>service its old rusted parts.
>As one of the last, most prominent, and most distinctive locomotives
>assembled in Roanoke, the 611 often serves as a symbol for Roanoke and its
>railroad history. The 611 is also depicted on the Commonwealth ofÂ
>Virginia's "Railway Heritage" license plate.
>
>The executives of NS determined to terminate the steam program, due to
>rising insurance costs, increasing cost of maintenance, and a high system
>capacity. The last steam excursion was on December 3 from Birmingham,
>Alabama to Chattanooga, Tennessee and back, pulled by 611. The next day
>611 set off on a three-day trek home to Roanoke. 611's last official day
>of being under steam was December 7, 1994, the 53rd anniversary of Pearl
>Harbor Day.
>Between Salisbury, North Carolina and Roanoke, 611 displayed black flags
>on the run. That evening, upon arrival at Schaffers Crossing in Roanoke,
>its fire was dumped for the last time.
>
>
>--Â
>Raymond E. Grabowski, Jr.
>Erie, Pennsylvania
>
>"Though we are not now that strength which in old days moved earth and
>heaven, that which we are, we are; one equal temper of heroic hearts made
>weak by time and fate but strong in will to strive, to seek, to find and
>not to yield."Â Alfred, Lord Tennyson
>
>
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Is this a joke?
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From: Ian Murray <csabresxr1@...>
Sent: Wed, November 18, 2009 11:57:53 AM
Subject: [Tidewater_Rails] Norfolk and Western 611 scheduled to hit the road
again
Â
Subject:Â FW: Norfolk and Western 611 scheduled to hit the road]
Â
>Â
>Norfolk and Western 611 scheduled to hit the road
>November 15, 2009
>
>In the recent decline in rail movement the Norfolk and Southern rail road
>board of directors has made a surprise announcement. That the 4-8-4 steam
>locomotive will be serviced and brought back for a executive tour of the
>line stopping along the way at major cities to promote rail service. It
>is not clear yet when this tour will occur or any of the details of where
>the
>locomotive will be shipped to be worked on. When contacted Donald W.
>Seale the Chief Marketing Officer declined any comment on the matter only
>adding to the mystery of when the tour will commence. Currently the steam
>locomotive #611 is on display at the Virginia Museum of Transportation,
>it is a wonder of when they will sneek this massive locomotive out to
>service its old rusted parts.
>As one of the last, most prominent, and most distinctive locomotives
>assembled in Roanoke, the 611 often serves as a symbol for Roanoke and its
>railroad history. The 611 is also depicted on the Commonwealth ofÂ
>Virginia's "Railway Heritage" license plate.
>
>The executives of NS determined to terminate the steam program, due to
>rising insurance costs, increasing cost of maintenance, and a high system
>capacity. The last steam excursion was on December 3 from Birmingham,
>Alabama to Chattanooga, Tennessee and back, pulled by 611. The next day
>611 set off on a three-day trek home to Roanoke. 611's last official day
>of being under steam was December 7, 1994, the 53rd anniversary of Pearl
>Harbor Day.
>Between Salisbury, North Carolina and Roanoke, 611 displayed black flags
>on the run. That evening, upon arrival at Schaffers Crossing in Roanoke,
>its fire was dumped for the last time.
>
>
>--Â
>Raymond E. Grabowski, Jr.
>Erie, Pennsylvania
>
>"Though we are not now that strength which in old days moved earth and
>heaven, that which we are, we are; one equal temper of heroic hearts made
>weak by time and fate but strong in will to strive, to seek, to find and
>not to yield."Â Alfred, Lord Tennyson
>
>
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Aside from that this come after Pete Lerro does a night photo shoot with both
the 611 and the 1218. Can't even find the original article. Most of the
"history" was copy pasted from the wikipedia page.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Norfolk_and_Western_611
My question is, how would operating a steam locomotive, get better rail traffic
for a company? All it will do is get the attention of railfans, and the EPA, as
steam is a bygone era. They would have better luck with a EMD or GE Demonstrator
touring the RR verses a steam locomotive.
"Service its rusted parts"
It's stored in almost-operable service, mothballed, and well oiled to keep the
bearings in shape. It needs flues, and upgrades to the FRA form 4, but other
than that she should be ready to steam.
- Jason Underwood
----- Original Message -----
From: Jeff Hawkins
To: Tidewater Rails
Sent: Wednesday, November 18, 2009 12:08 PM
Subject: Re: [Tidewater_Rails] Norfolk and Western 611 scheduled to hit the
road again
Actually it has to be a joke. There are way too many spelling and grammar
errors to be a press release from any self-respecting company. Why was this
even posted?Â
Jeff H.Â
----- Original Message -----
From: "Ian Murray" <csabresxr1@...>
To: undisclosed recipients: ;
Sent: Wednesday, November 18, 2009 11:57:53 AM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern
Subject: [Tidewater_Rails] Norfolk and Western 611 scheduled to hit the road
again
Â
Subject:Â FW: Norfolk and Western 611 scheduled to hit the road]
Â
>Â
>Norfolk and Western 611 scheduled to hit the road
>November 15, 2009
>
>In the recent decline in rail movement the Norfolk and Southern rail road
>board of directors has made a surprise announcement. That the 4-8-4 steam
>locomotive will be serviced and brought back for a executive tour of the
>line stopping along the way at major cities to promote rail service. It
>is not clear yet when this tour will occur or any of the details of where
>the
>locomotive will be shipped to be worked on. When contacted Donald W.
>Seale the Chief Marketing Officer declined any comment on the matter only
>adding to the mystery of when the tour will commence. Currently the steam
>locomotive #611 is on display at the Virginia Museum of Transportation,
>it is a wonder of when they will sneek this massive locomotive out to
>service its old rusted parts.
>As one of the last, most prominent, and most distinctive locomotives
>assembled in Roanoke, the 611 often serves as a symbol for Roanoke and its
>railroad history. The 611 is also depicted on the Commonwealth ofÂ
>Virginia's "Railway Heritage" license plate.
>
>The executives of NS determined to terminate the steam program, due to
>rising insurance costs, increasing cost of maintenance, and a high system
>capacity. The last steam excursion was on December 3 from Birmingham,
>Alabama to Chattanooga, Tennessee and back, pulled by 611. The next day
>611 set off on a three-day trek home to Roanoke. 611's last official day
>of being under steam was December 7, 1994, the 53rd anniversary of Pearl
>Harbor Day.
>Between Salisbury, North Carolina and Roanoke, 611 displayed black flags
>on the run. That evening, upon arrival at Schaffers Crossing in Roanoke,
>its fire was dumped for the last time.
>
>
>--Â
>Raymond E. Grabowski, Jr.
>Erie, Pennsylvania
>
>"Though we are not now that strength which in old days moved earth and
>heaven, that which we are, we are; one equal temper of heroic hearts made
>weak by time and fate but strong in will to strive, to seek, to find and
>not to yield."Â Alfred, Lord Tennyson
>
>
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I was thinking the same think Jeff.
Until I see it on the NS webpage, I wont believe it.
However, i did here talk that NS is funding the 4501 restoration at TVRM... part
of the deal was NS could use her for special trains so many times a year.
- Jason Underwood
----- Original Message -----
From: Jeff Hawkins
To: Tidewater Rails
Sent: Wednesday, November 18, 2009 12:05 PM
Subject: Re: [Tidewater_Rails] Norfolk and Western 611 scheduled to hit the
road again
This is a sick joke, right?Â
Jeff Hawkins
----- Original Message -----
From: "Ian Murray" <csabresxr1@...>
To: undisclosed recipients: ;
Sent: Wednesday, November 18, 2009 11:57:53 AM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern
Subject: [Tidewater_Rails] Norfolk and Western 611 scheduled to hit the road
again
Â
Subject:Â FW: Norfolk and Western 611 scheduled to hit the road]
Â
>Â
>Norfolk and Western 611 scheduled to hit the road
>November 15, 2009
>
>In the recent decline in rail movement the Norfolk and Southern rail road
>board of directors has made a surprise announcement. That the 4-8-4 steam
>locomotive will be serviced and brought back for a executive tour of the
>line stopping along the way at major cities to promote rail service. It
>is not clear yet when this tour will occur or any of the details of where
>the
>locomotive will be shipped to be worked on. When contacted Donald W.
>Seale the Chief Marketing Officer declined any comment on the matter only
>adding to the mystery of when the tour will commence. Currently the steam
>locomotive #611 is on display at the Virginia Museum of Transportation,
>it is a wonder of when they will sneek this massive locomotive out to
>service its old rusted parts.
>As one of the last, most prominent, and most distinctive locomotives
>assembled in Roanoke, the 611 often serves as a symbol for Roanoke and its
>railroad history. The 611 is also depicted on the Commonwealth ofÂ
>Virginia's "Railway Heritage" license plate.
>
>The executives of NS determined to terminate the steam program, due to
>rising insurance costs, increasing cost of maintenance, and a high system
>capacity. The last steam excursion was on December 3 from Birmingham,
>Alabama to Chattanooga, Tennessee and back, pulled by 611. The next day
>611 set off on a three-day trek home to Roanoke. 611's last official day
>of being under steam was December 7, 1994, the 53rd anniversary of Pearl
>Harbor Day.
>Between Salisbury, North Carolina and Roanoke, 611 displayed black flags
>on the run. That evening, upon arrival at Schaffers Crossing in Roanoke,
>its fire was dumped for the last time.
>
>
>--Â
>Raymond E. Grabowski, Jr.
>Erie, Pennsylvania
>
>"Though we are not now that strength which in old days moved earth and
>heaven, that which we are, we are; one equal temper of heroic hearts made
>weak by time and fate but strong in will to strive, to seek, to find and
>not to yield."Â Alfred, Lord Tennyson
>
>
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Actually it has to be a joke. There are way too many spelling and grammar
errors to be a press release from any self-respecting company. Why was this
even posted?Â
Jeff H.Â
----- Original Message -----
From: "Ian Murray" <csabresxr1@...>
To: undisclosed recipients: ;
Sent: Wednesday, November 18, 2009 11:57:53 AM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern
Subject: [Tidewater_Rails] Norfolk and Western 611 scheduled to hit the road
again
Â
Subject:Â FW: Norfolk and Western 611 scheduled to hit the road]
Â
>Â
>Norfolk and Western 611 scheduled to hit the road
>November 15, 2009
>
>In the recent decline in rail movement the Norfolk and Southern rail road
>board of directors has made a surprise announcement. That the 4-8-4 steam
>locomotive will be serviced and brought back for a executive tour of the
>line stopping along the way at major cities to promote rail service. It
>is not clear yet when this tour will occur or any of the details of where
>the
>locomotive will be shipped to be worked on. When contacted Donald W.
>Seale the Chief Marketing Officer declined any comment on the matter only
>adding to the mystery of when the tour will commence. Currently the steam
>locomotive #611 is on display at the Virginia Museum of Transportation,
>it is a wonder of when they will sneek this massive locomotive out to
>service its old rusted parts.
>As one of the last, most prominent, and most distinctive locomotives
>assembled in Roanoke, the 611 often serves as a symbol for Roanoke and its
>railroad history. The 611 is also depicted on the Commonwealth ofÂ
>Virginia's "Railway Heritage" license plate.
>
>The executives of NS determined to terminate the steam program, due to
>rising insurance costs, increasing cost of maintenance, and a high system
>capacity. The last steam excursion was on December 3 from Birmingham,
>Alabama to Chattanooga, Tennessee and back, pulled by 611. The next day
>611 set off on a three-day trek home to Roanoke. 611's last official day
>of being under steam was December 7, 1994, the 53rd anniversary of Pearl
>Harbor Day.
>Between Salisbury, North Carolina and Roanoke, 611 displayed black flags
>on the run. That evening, upon arrival at Schaffers Crossing in Roanoke,
>its fire was dumped for the last time.
>
>
>--Â
>Raymond E. Grabowski, Jr.
>Erie, Pennsylvania
>
>"Though we are not now that strength which in old days moved earth and
>heaven, that which we are, we are; one equal temper of heroic hearts made
>weak by time and fate but strong in will to strive, to seek, to find and
>not to yield."Â Alfred, Lord Tennyson
>
>
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This is a sick joke, right?Â
Jeff Hawkins
----- Original Message -----
From: "Ian Murray" <csabresxr1@...>
To: undisclosed recipients: ;
Sent: Wednesday, November 18, 2009 11:57:53 AM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern
Subject: [Tidewater_Rails] Norfolk and Western 611 scheduled to hit the road
again
Â
Subject:Â FW: Norfolk and Western 611 scheduled to hit the road]
Â
>Â
>Norfolk and Western 611 scheduled to hit the road
>November 15, 2009
>
>In the recent decline in rail movement the Norfolk and Southern rail road
>board of directors has made a surprise announcement. That the 4-8-4 steam
>locomotive will be serviced and brought back for a executive tour of the
>line stopping along the way at major cities to promote rail service. It
>is not clear yet when this tour will occur or any of the details of where
>the
>locomotive will be shipped to be worked on. When contacted Donald W.
>Seale the Chief Marketing Officer declined any comment on the matter only
>adding to the mystery of when the tour will commence. Currently the steam
>locomotive #611 is on display at the Virginia Museum of Transportation,
>it is a wonder of when they will sneek this massive locomotive out to
>service its old rusted parts.
>As one of the last, most prominent, and most distinctive locomotives
>assembled in Roanoke, the 611 often serves as a symbol for Roanoke and its
>railroad history. The 611 is also depicted on the Commonwealth ofÂ
>Virginia's "Railway Heritage" license plate.
>
>The executives of NS determined to terminate the steam program, due to
>rising insurance costs, increasing cost of maintenance, and a high system
>capacity. The last steam excursion was on December 3 from Birmingham,
>Alabama to Chattanooga, Tennessee and back, pulled by 611. The next day
>611 set off on a three-day trek home to Roanoke. 611's last official day
>of being under steam was December 7, 1994, the 53rd anniversary of Pearl
>Harbor Day.
>Between Salisbury, North Carolina and Roanoke, 611 displayed black flags
>on the run. That evening, upon arrival at Schaffers Crossing in Roanoke,
>its fire was dumped for the last time.
>
>
>--Â
>Raymond E. Grabowski, Jr.
>Erie, Pennsylvania
>
>"Though we are not now that strength which in old days moved earth and
>heaven, that which we are, we are; one equal temper of heroic hearts made
>weak by time and fate but strong in will to strive, to seek, to find and
>not to yield."Â Alfred, Lord Tennyson
>
>
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Subject: FW: Norfolk and Western 611 scheduled to hit the road]
>
>Norfolk and Western 611 scheduled to hit the road
>November 15, 2009
>
>In the recent decline in rail movement the Norfolk and Southern rail road
>board of directors has made a surprise announcement. That the 4-8-4 steam
>locomotive will be serviced and brought back for a executive tour of the
>line stopping along the way at major cities to promote rail service. It
>is not clear yet when this tour will occur or any of the details of where
>the
>locomotive will be shipped to be worked on. When contacted Donald W.
>Seale the Chief Marketing Officer declined any comment on the matter only
>adding to the mystery of when the tour will commence. Currently the steam
>locomotive #611 is on display at the Virginia Museum of Transportation,
>it is a wonder of when they will sneek this massive locomotive out to
>service its old rusted parts.
>As one of the last, most prominent, and most distinctive locomotives
>assembled in Roanoke, the 611 often serves as a symbol for Roanoke and its
>railroad history. The 611 is also depicted on the Commonwealth of
>Virginia's "Railway Heritage" license plate.
>
>The executives of NS determined to terminate the steam program, due to
>rising insurance costs, increasing cost of maintenance, and a high system
>capacity. The last steam excursion was on December 3 from Birmingham,
>Alabama to Chattanooga, Tennessee and back, pulled by 611. The next day
>611 set off on a three-day trek home to Roanoke. 611's last official day
>of being under steam was December 7, 1994, the 53rd anniversary of Pearl
>Harbor Day.
>Between Salisbury, North Carolina and Roanoke, 611 displayed black flags
>on the run. That evening, upon arrival at Schaffers Crossing in Roanoke,
>its fire was dumped for the last time.
>
>
>--
>Raymond E. Grabowski, Jr.
>Erie, Pennsylvania
>
>"Though we are not now that strength which in old days moved earth and
>heaven, that which we are, we are; one equal temper of heroic hearts made
>weak by time and fate but strong in will to strive, to seek, to find and
>not to yield." Alfred, Lord Tennyson
>
>
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